Thursday, 25 April 2024

Photos, news of four Watch Point events and now three chicks!

Update at 7 am Saturday morning: early web cam watchers have seen a chick and by lunchtime there were two! Screenshots below by Helen and Kate and video by Wendy.
And by Sunday morning there were three......





Screengrab by Helen showing both chicks:


And here's a video by Wendy of a feeding attempt:


Photographer Dave Farmer took these fine photos of our peregrines mid week, copied here while we waited for an egg to hatch!

        The male sits on the camera avoiding the plastic (anti-pigeon) spikes intended to                                stop him sitting there and possibly fouling the lens!
                               Photo: Dave Farmer (easyphotography.co.uk ).



 The female leaving the platform. Photo: Dave Farmer (easyphotography.co.uk )

Here's a screenshot taken today by Kate showing the smaller male and larger female plus four eggs still.




Watch Points 2024

There will be four Watch Point events behind the cathedral on the green this summer enabling visitors to use our telescopes to see the birds 'for real' and close up.
The dates for your diaries are all Saturdays:
18 and 25 May and 1 and 8 June.
Further details nearer the time......

The Project Team
This project is managed by Derbyshire Wildlife Trust with its partners, Derby Cathedral, Derby City Council and Cathedral Quarter.

90 comments:

Emma said...

Great photos

Wendy Bartter said...

Many thanks for your wonderful photos Dave!

Wendy Bartter said...

Latest changeover with view of three of the eggs ... still frustratingly whole!! Male took a lot of persuading to move off and let the female incubate ...
https://youtu.be/BBFqDlgUmsc

Wendy Bartter said...

First hatch at Leicester ... All four hatched at Kingston over a 19 hour period!

Jessica Kilmurray said...

Fantastic footage Wendy, I've been hooked on the live stream all day! I hope the eggs don't get pushed into the corner too much, otherwise we won't be able to see a great deal when they hatch

Wendy Bartter said...

Many thanks Jessica, was a bit disappointed to only have view of three eggs earlier, this is why I've been experimenting with dual view.

Anonymous said...

Change over just now, eggs appear intact

Kate said...


Pic on Flickr of turning 4 Eggs

also tried to scap the other Bird flew onto ledge and poked around the Pigeons nest

Anonymous said...

"also tried to scap the other Bird flew onto ledge and poked around the Pigeons nest"

What does this mean please?

Wendy Bartter said...

Might be something happening now, just saw far view of all eggs on cam #2 & looks like a pip on one of them ... unfortunately wasn't in view on cam #1

Kate said...


@anonymous
just put scap on Flickr, sitting by pigeons nest.

Merlin said...

Changeover 12.26- 3 eggs visible, no change it seems...

Wendy Bartter said...

Footage from latest changeover but she covered egg view from cam #2 https://youtu.be/ua6NtTmheVQ?si=q9KuFuynJu9wg-RL

Anonymous said...

4 eggs seen at 13.10. all intact

Jean said...

Still 4 eggs at 13.22 change over, pic on Flickr.
Notice view from cam # 2 has changed……

Wendy Bartter said...

I can see that the time is now correct, yes the scrape view is larger

Wendy Bartter said...

Changeover at 13.20 with egg views
https://youtu.be/RhDuJ_0Me_U?si=lgQnEFzmDeXiQzgf

Ann Raynor said...

change over round 14:10 saw 3 eggs not sure if there was a chick couldn't get enough view

Ann Raynor said...

Change over 14:10 saw 3 eggs , no sure if there was a chick couldn't get enough view

Anonymous said...

Looks like camera 2 has zoomed in or something, shame it's happened right as hatching is due! :(

KATE said...

Both Cams OK for me

Anonymous said...

The angle on camera 2 has changed. There's nothing wrong with it per se, it just isn't showing the slate section anymore.

Anonymous said...

Just like last year again. No view of the other side any more, what a shame. Aren't the cameras secured against the wind etc?

Anonymous said...

KATE26 April 2024 at 15:40
Both Cams OK for me

Yeah if you want to look at exactly the same spot from opposite sides. The other side of the platform can't be seen now so if the babies go over there they're out of sight, which is what happened last year.

Anonymous said...

The camera was probably moved when he perched on it and then took flight.

Anonymous said...

Change over 19.38, 4 eggs still intact..

Anonymous said...

19.38 changeover and still 4 eggs clearly visible. Very frustrating.

Anonymous said...

Folks: I zoomed in the camera a bit for you all today whilst I was up in the tower, resetting the timestamp on CAM2. I’ll zoom it out later if/when the eggs hatch and they grow up a bit and show signs of moving.
It should also now be possible to readjust the camera angle into the other corners, which was not possible last season. So don’t panic!
NickM
Project Team

Wendy Bartter said...

Footage of latest changeover at 19.38 with magnified egg views ...
https://youtu.be/KiMDpQeshEI?si=yItMmZysV8BLUZaX

Wendy Bartter said...

Thanks Nick!

Anonymous said...

I enjoyed watching the adult birds take turns perching on the slate section, and coming in to land/flying off from it. I do hope you'll reconsider, Nick, as not being able to see the slate section has been an oft-raised issue in previous years.

Anonymous said...

And not just after hatching time.

Anonymous said...

The angle was perfect the way it was. After months of being way out of alignment, it was so good to finally have a great view. Very disappointing that it's been changed.

Anonymous said...

06.14 we have a chick !!! I've been watching since 4.30am.

Merlin said...

7.04- glimpsed a tiny white head peeking out, parent moving shell about.

Jean said...

See photo on Flickr, not the best photo but you can see a very tiny head!

KATE said...

Well done all, and well snapped Jean ..Hopefully we will have a good hatching all round.

Jean said...

Thanks Kate. Thanks to Nick for changing Cam #2…..
Think it was the most coloured egg that has hatched.

Anonymous said...

I fear that maybe the only one to hatch, let's hope I'm wrong.

KATE said...

Shell is out 08.14 and been well crumpled,she has nibbled quite a bit.

Anonymous said...

Hear Hear. Absolute stupidity to move the camera and lose view of the whole platform.

KATE said...

Change over Chick clearly visible 08.45ish

Anonymous said...

Saw chick at change over but didn't see any feeding. It is the darkest/last egg that has hatched so looks like just the one chick this year

Helen said...

I think the zoomed in camera angle is great! It means that we can see the eggs and chick in the corner during hatching time. The chick/s won't be moving very far at the moment and I am sure the camera can be zoomed out again when they are more mobile and moving across to the other side.

Anonymous said...

Well you seem to be in the minority. It's crass stupidity to restrict the view to one corner when we had a view of the whole platform for once. Why fix something that wasn't broken? I loved seeing the other side at last.

Helen said...

Fingers crossed that we see another chick soon. I couldn't see any obvious pips in the other eggs during the change over but difficult to say for sure. I'm looking forward to the watchpoints.

Anonymous said...

I think the camera angle is ok. We can see the main area and I for one am grateful to the team for all they do to provide this for us. Looking forward to the watch session.

Merlin said...

10.50- another chick breaking out of its egg!

Merlin said...

11.02- parent bird gently moving shell out of the way...white shell this time!

Helen said...

Yes, I thought it was a second chick too.

Anonymous said...

Definitely so pleased I was wrong 👍

Wendy Bartter said...

Such wonderful news and pics, thanks to all early bird watchers, looking forward to next changeover and feeding time!

Merlin said...

12.50- feeding time! Chicks taking food...

Wendy Bartter said...

Footage of the TWO lovely chicks but the feeding at 12.50 was a bit of a disaster ... seems as if the female's foot problems caused difficulty in her moving prey close to chicks .. she became so very awkward and put one of the chicks in a precarious position but she recovered it, the prey is also very bulky which doesn't help ...
https://youtu.be/6DqF2RY6Wjw

KATE said...


Thanks Wendy, you did well there with difficult situation, and managing with capturing both Cams Well done.

Wendy Bartter said...

There was an attempt but the chicks didn't actually get any, luckily they are not desperate for food so soon after hatching as they have had nourishment from the egg

Wendy Bartter said...

Thanks Kate ... here the female drags the prey, thinks about feeding the chicks but then flies off with it ...
https://youtu.be/AGYz4Q6HT-o?si=X-wKNUJAQDyitzhs

Helen said...

Looks as if a third chick may be one its way to hatching. I'm fairly sure I saw a hole in one of the remaining eggs during a very quick feed a few minutes ago. There also seemed to be a lot of movement, although it was being jostled a bit by the chicks.

Jessica Kilmurray said...

Excellent video as always! What did happen to the females foot?

Wendy Bartter said...

A better attempt with feeding at 14.54 ... always a little harrowing to watch until Mum becomes adept at feeding multiple chicks equally ...
https://youtu.be/4FCtmliK67w?si=j-pswbMRlXZXss24

KATE said...

Is that Third shell out just now?

Wendy Bartter said...

Another feed but very short, no lack of prey, more patience needed maybe?
https://youtu.be/wespGMQ6Ymg?si=Dn3IFffrJpOBGd3j

Wendy Bartter said...

Wasn't watching then Kate

Jean said...

Another attempt to feed at 17.53 but chicks got nothing. Could only see 2 chicks…..

Jean said...

18.55 another feed, one chick definitely got food, not sure about the other one…….

Wendy Bartter said...

Agree Jean, still only two chicks ... Funny session, male brings prey, he & female feed but none to chicks, they fight over it then male takes it away ...
https://youtu.be/rMaZjyCcLWQ

Wendy Bartter said...

We don't know Jessica but she has been struggling with it for past couple of months or more, she is unable to bend the middle talon of left foot or grip the ledge or prey with it, she constantly favours it by not taking much weight on it, it makes her very awkward which makes me think it's painful!

Wendy Bartter said...

I couldn't make out whether it was a hole or just one of the various colour marks

Anonymous said...

Feeling sorry for the peregrine at Winchester. It's been raining there every time I've looked this afternoon/evening..

Anonymous said...

Definitely 3 chick's now

Merlin said...

3 chicks, parent feeding but has gone off with the food!

Anonymous said...

Yes definitely the parents are feeding themselves more than the chicks, not very encouraging.

KATE said...

Just thrown large white shell...is this the 4th?

KATE said...

Just as I switched on chicks all alone but instantly Mum arrived back, think still only Three, Wendy may have a vid to clarify soon.PIC I grabbed on Flickr but looks like egg in front

Jean said...

Just seen feed at 11.16, still 3 chicks and what looks like a whole egg

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Wendy Bartter said...

Thanks for that info Jean and sorry to have missed it as laptop had run out of battery! Just been a changeover at 11.34 but chicks/egg covered so quickly that there was no view from either cam

Wendy Bartter said...

No useful footage Kate but could definitely see what looked like a whole egg very briefly!

Jean said...

Have added a photo to Flickr as you missed it….

Wendy Bartter said...

Lovely capture Jean, definitely see three little bobbleheads there, thank you😊

Helen said...

It looked as if the chicks had a fairly good feed about half an hour ago.

Wendy Bartter said...

Have recorded that last feed at 13.44 entirely so that we can see how much the chicks were fed, can only see the two older ones, new one hidden in corner and Female blocking view on cam#2 ...
https://youtu.be/x54iwmFlGMI?si=Kj7igrsvJHsTv1pO

Wendy Bartter said...

All four eggs have hatched at Sheffield over last couple of days!

Anonymous said...

I completely agree, fellow Anonymous. Very disappointing. I don't watch just for the chicks but for the adults as well.

Wendy Bartter said...

Feed at 17.09 at 2x speed to be able to check the whole feed to see how much chicks got, still not the best of views ...
https://youtu.be/w0eE3Elgjb0?si=xR0UyjrlHpQHE3ae

Wendy Bartter said...

A right old tussle for the prey at 19.42, he didn't want to give it up!! Not sure how much the chicks got ...
https://youtu.be/l5SbEQiZnYo?si=gow57drlanAdosVT

Anonymous said...

One can be grateful and still voice an opinion. I've been donating to this project ever since they first started accepting donations. I am grateful. Also disappointed by the now-reduced view. Seems like consistent feedback from numerous people across previous years has been completely disregarded on a whim.

KATE said...

Feeding now, and all three getting a share pics on Flickr in a mo..

Jean said...

Missed this feed!
Lovely photo’s of chicks, thanks Kate

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