Saturday 8 June 2024

Still three on last Watch Point day

Update 19th June:
There are plenty of other web cams on nests which you can watch now that ours has become barely worth watching.
Ospreys, white storks and many more!
Here's just one, a live-feed cam inside a swift's nest in Bolton.

The chicks are half grown and with the better weather arriving, food supplies will be coming in regularly!  


Our Wendy Bartter has become addicted and is posting video clips to Youtube - here's just one:




Update 15th June:
Watch Point volunteer Helen went down to the Cathedral on Sunday morning and reported seeing all five birds looking fine!
The Sunday Times (16 June) had a short article in the print edition about peregrines on UK cathedrals with a mention of the Derby Cathedral birds included. 


There's a much longer, online article with many more photos and quotes but it is behind a £1 /month paywall.


Update 14th June: all three have fledged successfully with at least one returning occasionally.
If you've enjoyed watching the webcams do please consider making a donation to keep the project going for next year.

There's a donations tab on the top of the blog landing page.

Many thanks and see you all next year!


Ps The web cams stay live all year round and the adults remain close to and sometimes on the nest platform.....

Update 11 June:

More photos by Dave Farmer, taken yesterday, show the now confident male, XRL on the tower's stonework shouting for food:





And looking down on the world below:



Update 8th June:

The Watch Point was slightly disrupted by other events going on nearby but our volunteers stayed through to the end so a big thank you to them and for helping out at all four Watch Points. Thanks too to the DWT staff who helped and to John from Cathedral Quarter who organised the gazebo.

Volunteer Helen summarising the morning said:

A very active morning. The adults and all three juveniles were showing well all the time. There were several occasions when we thought one of the young birds was going to fly. One of them fluttered up to the right hand side of the platform and briefly perched at the side of the camera bracket, before dropping back down on to the scrape.
One of the big females looks ready to go. Lots of wing flapping and head bobbing. We could clearly see the difference in size between the male juvenile and the two bigger females when all three were perched on the edge of the platform.
A red kite drifted overhead, prompting the adult male to fly from it's perch half way up the tower. One of the adult falcons very nearly caught a pigeon just to the left of us over the buildings but the pigeon just managed to swerve out of the way at the last moment. There was also a tussle with the local gulls to add to the scene!

Wendy Bartter made this video today:




And on Friday, Dave Farmer took these photos:




                               Showing the difference between the adult on the right and the juvenile.
                                                                Photo: Dave Farmer



                      One of the bigger female juveniles looks out on a busy Cathedral Green below
                                                     Photo: Dave Farmer




                         No sign of any white fluff now! Photo: Dave Farmer


The Project Team
The Project is managed by Derbyshire Wildlife Trust support from partners The Cathedral, Cathedral Quarter and Derby City Council

97 comments:

kate said...

Morning everyone
Our NOT so little ones reluctant to leave home as all three enjoying a nap.at 08.10

Thank you Team for a lovely Blog Post, as always love the way Helen captures the whole day.So pleased enjoyed by all attending, and everyones participation in making the success, including The Peregrine showing off it's non catching skills.
Loved the photos especially the difference in adult and young.

Many Thanks again to all

kate said...

08.30 think one on the ledge flown

kate said...

Nope still three twas notoriously hiding

Wendy Woods said...

I'm also watching 4 chicks at Leeds University. Can I ask why their scrape is always so clean and tidy when the Derby ones are sitting on an increasing pile of remnants of feeds?

Diane said...

The previous pair used to keep the area immaculate, but this pair seems to have no housekeeping skills at all. The Nottingham site is always tidy, but some of the other sites I look at are just as messy. I suppose some birds are naturally tidy, some not, just like people

Anonymous said...

First chick flew off about 15 minutes ago

KATE said...

yep did you get a pic? I missed and thought the other must be hiding again.

Anonymous said...

Sorry no I didn't it was too quick. Looks like the other two are quite restless so might be flying off soon

Anonymous said...

There is something on the ledge below, can't tell if it's chick, parent or pigeon

Chris said...

Looks like the chick that flew off is on the ledge below the scrape….

Anonymous said...

Other 2 are settled now.

Paul Robinson said...

Exactly my thoughts. The Derby falcons are more like me, the Nottingham pair more like my aunt used to be. πŸ™‚

Anonymous said...

Surprised it went. Its drizzly weather this afternoon.

Paul Robinson said...

The chick just flew off the ledge below the scrape, it looked fine.

Wendy Woods said...

Thanks for the replies to my question about tidyness. You'd think they'd all be the same but yes,like humans,they're all different.

Wendy Bartter said...

Footage of all three youngsters from 09.20 this morning looking quite lively, possibly the last we'll see of them together this season ...
https://youtu.be/9xr8jrcoyAw?si=rdVpJmszCVC-Vsdp

Wendy Bartter said...

Thanks to Helen for news of Watchpoint and to Dave for more great photos of our birds!

Wendy Bartter said...

Late with this footage due to family commitments ... backs up earlier comments about the time the littl'un fledged, about 12.50 although I was on wrong cam to capture his flight but does show him on ledge below between two mouldings ...
https://youtu.be/qL0GDAi8ay0?si=_kbwEIQoGd3uKq5S

Helen said...

The fledged youngster is safe and is perched lower down on the tower out of view of the cameras. Looking at the two still on the platform it seems as if it might be the male that has flown again, although difficult to be totally sure.

Anonymous said...

If it's XRL who has gone, he had a fly around this morning at 6.50. Saw him land back on scrape

Wendy Bartter said...

Have seen the two still on either scrape every time I have checked during the afternoon, Mum came with food but recording messed up, can see both right now and Mum perched also!

Paul Robinson said...

All three chicks are in the scrape along with one of the parents. Or do we say two chicks and a fledgling?

Helen said...

Thank you Paul, that's great news. He seems to be getting more confident. I wonder how many times he has flown off and returned to the platform without anybody noticing!!

Nattalie said...

I have been on and off here all day and iv seen him go and come back a few times...once when mum came back with food he landed on the platform below shouting up wondering how to get back up bless him so glad he's found his way back up again...they are so funny to watch

Wendy Bartter said...

Managed to find him under the scrape and then in it around 19.35 onwards
https://youtu.be/8Ol1BaQ4o7g

Anonymous said...

All quiet today. Just the two of them.

Merlin said...

Surely the two remaining will fledge soon! They are being looked after by parents too well, perhaps.

Nattalie said...

Yes I agree the babies bless them.. king of the sky is back (baby boy)

Wendy Bartter said...

The two youngsters having a tussle over prey that Mum brought in at 16.35
https://youtu.be/BRa0LZPPnzw

Wendy Bartter said...

As reported the prodigal youngster returns ... again!
https://youtu.be/obJ_xoeCceY

Dave Farmer said...

Look out for two possibilities in connection with the final two fledging.

Sometimes when an adult has been perched on the edge of the platform and it takes off, a juvenile will immediately follow it. After all, the parents know where all the food is don't they !

When juveniles hang on and on an adult will sometimes bring in a kill landing on the edge of the platform and after a couple of seconds it will fly away with it sending a message of "if you want some come get some". It does work quite often.

Helen said...

I think it is fairly typical for female peregrines to take longer to fledge as they tend to develop more slowly than male birds, and are bigger and heavier.

Wendy Bartter said...

One I forgot to upload, wondering what the one youngster can see below, there is a dark shape on moulding
https://youtu.be/WlTzpma5hUk

Anonymous said...

And then there were 1

Nattalie said...

Sorry forgot to change from anonymous

Helen said...

Still only the one now. Hope the fist female to go is ok.

Merlin said...

I hope the last one follows soon, although I have loved watching the peregrines this year!

Helen said...

Two there now so one must have returned again, presumably the male, but I can’t quite tell at the moment.

Helen said...

If it is the two females on the scrape, I guess it is possible that one of them was perched up on the side of the platform or on the metal bracket in the middle, out of view of the cameras, and has dropped back down again. Very hard to tell. All fun and games this morning!

kate said...


Morning Natalie and Helen and all

Both were feeding , now one up on the ledge persistently occasionally calling

Anonymous said...

What happens when they have all fledged? Do they stay in the area for a while and then move on? Will they remain around the cathedral area all summer ? Where do they go and where are they over winter before coming back to breed again?

Kate said...


@ Anonymous
Many of your questions may be answered in the FAQ that the TEAM have put together

https://derbyperegrines.blogspot.com/p/faqs.html
here is one.
"The young birds usually move away from Derby in the autumn. Just occasionally one or more youngsters may remain here until the following spring."

Simon said...

Down to one again. The other just dropped off the scrape and is on the ledge below.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I have now read the FAQ. Very informative

Anonymous said...

16.15 XRL back having a snack. One other one there. Swapping and changing. All very confusing.

Wendy Bartter said...

Footage from just after the second one fledged ... could the remaining one see it, gets very excited ...
https://youtu.be/eVrdIXuC4XU?si=fx_GSeF06zk_iUdz

Kate said...

Two were eating Prey a short while ago, but see we back to one again.

kate said...

make that two again Doh!!

Wendy Bartter said...

Mum feeds both youngsters for a short time at 16.48
https://youtu.be/3tX4xje8NEA

Wendy Bartter said...

She didn't feed them at 17.48, just left a chunk of prey for them to get on with
https://youtu.be/ielCFQk8YaM

Wendy Bartter said...

Logged back in after doing the vids and the littl'un (I presume) had flown again, haven't managed to see one actually leave yet! Half of one youngster showing on cam #1 now, 19.54

Simon said...

2 feeding and one on the ledge below at present.

Merlin said...

Parent feeding 2 again 8.10pm.

Wendy Bartter said...

Bits of the feeding of two again at 20.06
https://youtu.be/Id8a_ebxw0k

Anonymous said...

7. 40. Last one has climbed onto the top of the slate scrape out of view.

Anonymous said...

Back down again

Anonymous said...

Thought the last one was going at around 11.15. Lots of activity back and forth and up to the top. Surely today is the day.

Anonymous said...

Lots of flapping but I think the last chick seems reluctant to go

Wendy Bartter said...

Came back at 16.24 to find two sharing prey after being only one on scrape all day since around half nine this morning, difference in size indicates the little male back for a meal!

KATE said...

Wendy .....and see his full crop !

Anonymous said...

Mum came in with prey for remaining female at 16.15. She tried to feed the young one but was pecked at quite viscously. She left young one to feed itself then little XRL flew in confidently and shared the feed.

Nattalie said...

I am so upset with myself both were on the scrape feeding mum flew off I turn away and one baby has gone too iv been waiting for that moment lol amd I miss it

Wendy Bartter said...

Female youngster joined this afternoon by the fledgling male and some prey which they shared https://youtu.be/yOAeGJODqbw

Wendy Bartter said...

Nattalie said...
I am so upset with myself...

And I can't help Nattalie cos I missed it all too!!

Anonymous said...

All 3 youngsters on the scrape briefly at 6 40 am

Anonymous said...

Yep, 6.45 and XSL flew off confidently with some old prey. That just leaves XTL to go.

Anonymous said...

7.10 and back to two again. Very busy this morning with the coming and going.

Kate said...

just flown 12 12 Yay!!

Jean said...

I just missed it😟

Anonymous said...

ONE STILL ON THE SCRAPE

Wendy Bartter said...

It's one of the adults!

Wendy Bartter said...

As Kate said ... she finally plucked up courage to launch at 12.12 and I actually captured it for posterity ...
https://youtu.be/uCaAm9eQMSo?si=QqaVdxB2A3TnmCPa

Nattalie said...

Awwww yeeeeey well done baby no3 😁😊

Anonymous said...

Thank-you Wendy. That was awesome.

Eileen Taylor said...

Thanks Wendy. Well done for that capture, I loved watching it.

Paul Robinson said...

What a beautiful moment! Thank you Wendy for capturing that plus the buildup to it, she really wanted to go!

Anonymous said...

Seems strange looking at the webcam and not seeing the chicks there but glad they have all fledged now. Hope that they are all doing well.

Wendy Bartter said...

Wonder if this was the latest fledgling looking to get back to scrape?
https://youtu.be/t8fsefi8VDQ

Simon said...

Lovely to watch that. πŸ™‚

Nattalie said...

Ahh can't watch....it says the video is private

Wendy Bartter said...

Sorry about that Nattalie, should be ok now

Nick DWT said...

Message for Dave Farmer.
A national paper is writing a piece about peregrines on cathedrals for this Sunday and wants to use one of your excellent photos but can't get in touch with you. If you happen to see this comment today (Friday) please email Nick B at the trust asap. and I will put you in touch.
Thanks.

Merlin said...

Congratulations and thanks to Dave- the top photo of male with wings outspread brilliant! Get the national paper to pay- or at least to donate!

Kate said...

Hope someone contacts Dave. Brilliant Phots we are so very fortunate.Thank you Dave.

Wendy Bartter said...

Some bit & bobs from pre-fledge yesterday showing what a good relationship the last female had with the fledged one who came back to share last moments on the scrape ...
https://youtu.be/YM0JtO1N128

Wendy Bartter said...

This is when the adult visited the scrape after all had fledged, a bit of peace & quiet and a scrape in the shingle, not been that quiet since the chicks hatched ...
https://youtu.be/exmg8CbRiPE

And just in case you're missing all the din that the youngsters made ... here's a visit from this afternoon which made me jump as I sat peacefully in my lounge ... unfortunately no sighting
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkxwzM5EX9Q

Wendy Bartter said...

Thanks Helen for the update on seeing all five birds yesterday, hope you continue to get many more good views as they learn to hunt!
Great shame about having to pay to see that Sunday Times article!!

Nattalie said...

https://www.thetimes.com/article/97f906f8-37d5-453b-8617-44ea3f5862c8

Anonymous said...

And here is the article for free you only have to sign in and they used daves picture too 😁

Wendy Bartter said...

Many thanks to Nick B and Anonymous for that Sunday Times article not forgetting Dave Farmer for more wonderful photos ... missing all the birds still!

Nattalie said...

Sorry was me nattalie lol

Wendy Bartter said...

A headless adult currently showing on cam #2

Nattalie said...

Yes been here about an hr

Simon said...

I went into Derby on Saturday and saw one of the young ones sat on the roof of a shop a few doors down from the cathedral.

Anonymous said...

And no reported sightings since 17th June

Anonymous said...

Adult on cam 2 at 19.45

Nattalie said...

Pigeon in cam 2 🀣