tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post4257584917885366672..comments2024-03-27T19:23:48.197+00:00Comments on Derby Cathedral Peregrine Project - 2024: Watch Points, a report on day one and a nice donationPeregrine Project Member (Nick M.)http://www.blogger.com/profile/08206815980511978659noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-32880680037133924222012-05-19T18:56:15.405+01:002012-05-19T18:56:15.405+01:00Ringing successfully accomplished at Aylesbury. S...Ringing successfully accomplished at Aylesbury. Seems we have one male and one female. The infertile egg retrieved under licence to be given to the County Museum as a record of our first breeding peregrines in the county.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-52928700975411979712012-05-18T21:13:51.567+01:002012-05-18T21:13:51.567+01:00Rej - I don't know the proper answer to your q...Rej - I don't know the proper answer to your question of locomotion but I think that because a peregrines normal standing position is more upright as opposed to a chicken whose body is somewhat horizontal that would account for it. the bottom shuffle is the tarsi that they use for balance until their legs and body mature.<br /><br />Looking at the webcam now, the falcon appears to float atop the pile of chicks!Phoebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04284500199021475114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-78350462432836622342012-05-18T17:01:15.718+01:002012-05-18T17:01:15.718+01:00Hello again Rej, it's Mrs Amateur again! Onto...Hello again Rej, it's Mrs Amateur again! Onto question 2, I think the answer lies in what I have observed at Nottingham. The "monster" at first had a very strange gait with its "knees" (I think thet's actually ankle?) bent backwards and an enormous pair of feet shuffling it along. As it has grown and strengthened, the legs have straightened out and if you look at the beast now, it is a fine upstanding thing!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-40853172642816043032012-05-18T15:01:14.454+01:002012-05-18T15:01:14.454+01:00Its amazing the chicks have grown very big since l...Its amazing the chicks have grown very big since last time because we have looked at them this morning in thact we are looking at them right now.A adult is keeping a eye on the chiks but it is not brooding them right now because it is to warm the chiks dont need to be brooded right now and the adult is not there now it is.We think the adults are looking after four little cute chiks which are pritty big as we have already menshernd.The peregrins chiks dont get fed a very lot because the peregrines chiks eat pritty big birds.The adult peregrine is standing over the chiks right now. We would like to know when the peregrines chiks get there juvinile feathers. Why do the juvinales have brown feathers and the adults have grey and black feathers? Why do juviniles have grey beaks, talons and adults have a yellow sear?Green class, aged 6 and 7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-74470750797736424542012-05-18T14:11:13.952+01:002012-05-18T14:11:13.952+01:00Hi Rej
I'm not sure I know what I'm talkin...Hi Rej<br />I'm not sure I know what I'm talking about but it strikes me that the hideous mess increases with the development of the young. Derby seem to me to have been extremely "late" this year (very fortutous given the dreadful weather) so although they have twice as many chicks, as us, they are much smaller. Our nest was pristine once! Our Mrs P had a big clean up yesterday, think she tried to remove the infertile egg but seems to have just pierced and broken it before shoving it to the side. Having said all that, there are a distressing number of heads that seem to have been hanging about in Aylesbury for ages! I've just been shopping in the town and seen some more "off the scrape" action. It really is great if one is lucky enough to see both the web images and real life - each is only a part of the story. So, all you lucky peole who live in Derby, do try to get down to one of the watchpoints if you can, it adds so much to the experience.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-33392073051279838342012-05-18T12:38:35.257+01:002012-05-18T12:38:35.257+01:00Two questions fo anyone who knows!
a) Are the Derb...Two questions fo anyone who knows!<br />a) Are the Derby peregrine pair unusually houseproud? Apart from an odd wing and foot their tray seems very clean compared the pictures from Aylesbury (Sorry Sue).<br />b) I notice that they still have a "shufflebottom" means of locomotion. When I think of chicken chicks, which scamper about after a day old their development seems slow. Is that normal for raptors ? or larger birds in general?Rej (AT)https://www.blogger.com/profile/17569615245890592275noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-43246861741710119652012-05-18T12:00:01.891+01:002012-05-18T12:00:01.891+01:00they are so big now.the chiks are moveng around ...they are so big now.the chiks are moveng around the nestbox. I like the little chiks. when the bells ring wud it hurt the chiks ears? I think it is noisey.anna and rona andzoe ash classnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-29998751623903113262012-05-18T07:45:46.900+01:002012-05-18T07:45:46.900+01:00@Phoebe and @Nick I wrote my comments after our wa...@Phoebe and @Nick I wrote my comments after our watchpoint when we saw something with the naked eye that webcam viewers wouldn't have seen. We believed we saw the tiercel bring a SECOND unmentionable to his favourite cache and we jumped to the conclusion that a second one had been taken. Wiser heads have now said what we probably saw was just the original one being moved, after all, just the wing was seen in the scrape on the first occasion. One would have been sad but TWO ....... On reflection, it would have been pretty statistically crazy for them to have caught 2 such scarce birds. We're all committed birders but I think we all felt twinges at the thought of two being taken.<br />What was great at the watchpoint was engaging with loads of people who hadn't previously had a clue what was happening in their town and seeing a great big smile on their faces when they looked down the scopes and got their first view.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-29228113963551812552012-05-18T00:25:21.410+01:002012-05-18T00:25:21.410+01:00@Phoebe @Sue
Do remember that the impact of peregr...@Phoebe @Sue<br />Do remember that the impact of peregrine falcons and other raptors on the numbers of song birds in this county is virtually nil. Compared to the losses caused by gun-toting and glue-wielding hunters in Mediterranean countries, or losses to birds caused by habitat destruction and mismanagement here, and even to predation by domestic cats, the impact can be discounted. In fact we do gain a lot of scientific information about bird movement through peregrine prey remains.<br /><br />Peregrine numbers are so small, and their menu so broad, that native song birds have far greater factors affecting their survival than a few hungry natural predators.Peregrine Project Member (Nick M.)https://www.blogger.com/profile/08206815980511978659noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-47616382568910172012012-05-18T00:01:37.815+01:002012-05-18T00:01:37.815+01:00@ Sue peregrino - I have looked at the site you me...@ Sue peregrino - I have looked at the site you mention and if it is the pictured wing then that was my second thought. Unfortunate as it is they are in the food chain along with all the others. I agree with your sentiments though.Phoebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04284500199021475114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-74737771374653740292012-05-17T22:04:26.270+01:002012-05-17T22:04:26.270+01:00@Phoebe - just noticed your question about the pre...@Phoebe - just noticed your question about the prey item at 12.32. I asked a similar question at Aylesbury 2 nights ago and the answer was NOT something I was thrilled to hear. I'd rather not say what, but if you look on the Bucks Bird Club website, I think it says there.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-74691613391582722492012-05-17T22:00:20.530+01:002012-05-17T22:00:20.530+01:00Rej, If you still lived in Flackwell Heath, never ...Rej, If you still lived in Flackwell Heath, never mind drive, you could probably get the bus to Aylesbury and watch peregrines. I know it sounds unbelieveable but it's TRUE. Derby was my first love though and always holds a special place in my heart - even to the extent of struggling up there on a nightmare drive through the Milton Keynes roundabouts, up the awful lorry infested M1 and into the confusing roads of Derby itself.<br />Caroline, you can get a quick "peregrine cry" fix on the RSPB website - they have a brilliant section with bird calls. It's never quite as good as the real thing though.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-26295714606874482302012-05-17T20:10:48.219+01:002012-05-17T20:10:48.219+01:00What a pleasure to read the interest of young chil...What a pleasure to read the interest of young children and entered in there own text. Keep up the good work kids.Brian Ashleynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-78475185439597730492012-05-17T19:14:40.463+01:002012-05-17T19:14:40.463+01:00The parent bird seems to be having trouble control...The parent bird seems to be having trouble controlling the chicks at the moment. I wonder what is happening?Phoebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04284500199021475114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-23394399498454745932012-05-17T12:32:29.719+01:002012-05-17T12:32:29.719+01:00What on earth is the prey just brought in? It is ...What on earth is the prey just brought in? It is quite large and has wing feathers like a sparowhawk!Phoebehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04284500199021475114noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-61599945500574778322012-05-17T12:12:37.434+01:002012-05-17T12:12:37.434+01:00I have been surprised how the chicks have groun.we...I have been surprised how the chicks have groun.we have seen them eat.I cont blive how there feet have groun.zoe from holmesdale infant school age 7noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-12314884837657019162012-05-17T11:53:26.191+01:002012-05-17T11:53:26.191+01:00we or surprised haw the chicks hav grone in such a...we or surprised haw the chicks hav grone in such a short space of tame.ash class from holmesdale infant school by baylie gnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-68705913822059758852012-05-17T11:24:42.727+01:002012-05-17T11:24:42.727+01:00Hello . We have been doing peregrine activertys li...Hello . We have been doing peregrine activertys like a peregrine life cikel and a peregrine diry. The chick are geting bigger evry day and they are so flufy.beth from homesdaleinfant schoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-72557940214035444232012-05-17T10:42:59.270+01:002012-05-17T10:42:59.270+01:00in class we have bean doing a peregrine dairy and ...in class we have bean doing a peregrine dairy and a live cicle of<br />a peregrine folcan and a peregrine puppet.florence age 6 Holmesdale Infantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-28731312111150310352012-05-17T10:42:53.822+01:002012-05-17T10:42:53.822+01:00in class we have bean doing a peregrine dairy and ...in class we have bean doing a peregrine dairy and a live cicle of<br />a peregrine folcan and a peregrine puppet.florence age 6 Holmesdale Infantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-25276207321576504892012-05-17T10:40:39.317+01:002012-05-17T10:40:39.317+01:00the peregrines foalcan are feeding the chicks alot...the peregrines foalcan are feeding the chicks alot.felix age7 Holmesdale Infantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-87755966815274356952012-05-17T10:40:38.262+01:002012-05-17T10:40:38.262+01:00the peregrines foalcan are feeding the chicks alot...the peregrines foalcan are feeding the chicks alot.felix age7 Holmesdale Infantsnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-81393125223285127022012-05-17T10:29:03.779+01:002012-05-17T10:29:03.779+01:00I love the ferrey white chicks.
we have been doing...I love the ferrey white chicks.<br />we have been doing some peregrine<br />diry,work.<br />its so fun doing it.<br />I bet they feal so soft.megan age 7 homesdail infants schoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-3343328756401892712012-05-17T10:29:03.442+01:002012-05-17T10:29:03.442+01:00I love the ferrey white chicks.
we have been doing...I love the ferrey white chicks.<br />we have been doing some peregrine<br />diry,work.<br />its so fun doing it.<br />I bet they feal so soft.megan age 7 homesdail infants schoolnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-517644049991406941.post-42981066464661949842012-05-17T09:56:58.811+01:002012-05-17T09:56:58.811+01:00Fantastic to hear that the Watchpoint went well ye...Fantastic to hear that the Watchpoint went well yesterday in spite of the cold. Thanks to all concerned and to DOS and others for their donations. I plan to come down for a Watchpoint and to hear that peregrine cry as Sue describes it :) Another interesting feeding chart up on Flickr thanks to REJ and Phoebe. The feeds are amazingly regular when one considers all the hard work involved in catching prey.Carolinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12910593047048811506noreply@blogger.com